Guardian Update
- Minor fixes to GSE and WA
word I’ll give it a peek! I love all your stuff I’ve just been making small tweaks to fit my own playstyle and the keys im doing
So maul being in the main rotation burns too much rage in keys and makes it hard to keep your stacks of ironfur up. Maul is really only for tooth and claw procs. Talenting into Thorns of Iron gives you both the dps boost and the survivability, so ironfur should be our main rage spender, not maul. I love what you have done here, but what I am trying to accomplish was to remove maul from the no mod rotation as it is pretty much mandatory in higher keys. This is why I disabled Block Path 5.1.3, as it was the only place I could find a reference to maul. Not sure if there is a better way to accomplish this, but I’m still earning GSE and not even remotely close to as talented in this as you. Regardless it is working better for me this way and my stacks are staying on through tough pulls. I should note im running the M+ talents and specced into Elunes Chosen so I def use Raze way more than maul.
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Yep, I just did away with Maul completely. Not needed. Thrash and Mangle are your bread and butter. Even swipe is falling to the side.
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I was going to suggest a couple changes but i wasnt sure if it was just the content i was doing since its hard to make one of these macos to cater to every single person but thought I’d throw up some suggestions to see if you’d like them. I’ve been doing mostly high keys and havnt raid tanked yet since i play feral for raid
Here’s been my talent tree for high end keys just so u can see where some of my logic is
nomod
So for the nomod I add a /cast ironfur to a few different blocks just so it spends basically all my rage on ironfur the reason being is using thorns of iron talent makes ironfur both your defensive and offensive rage dump in aoe pulls hitting around 5 stacks is optimal and you generate a ton of rage in berserk. I’ve also changed /cast maul to /cast ravage this means if you are playing druid of the claw whenever u get a ravage proc youll use it which is the only time youd want to use maul as DotC anyways.
shift
Ive basically just made a copy of the nomod taken all the ironfurs away and added back maul instead of ravage
this has been my I’m not tanking time to pump button. think if you tank swap in raid or something like the first boss of mists when he takes increased damage.
cntrl
cntrl I changed to /cast lunar beam. I didnt mind it on nomod but there were times where it’d fire it as you were pulling a pack together so you’d have to go back to it and with EC moonfire reduces the cooldown of your lunar beam so it’s just nice to have a bit more control over it.
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great as is.
As always thanks for all your great work!
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I am going to try a couple of these. Our talents are similar but I have a little more offensive. I do not play druid of the claw so I switched the cast maul to cast ironfur. Need to test and see how it performs. I like your idea on the shift mod. Thanks for the suggestions.
Always open to suggestions, I’m reading the above posts, need to make my own comments
I need explain the advantage of having Ironfur and Maul in a /castsequence, why Ironfur is also on CTRL, and what the Global Cooldown is and how it applies to Ironfur and GSE.
1) Ironfur is not on the Global Cooldown AND has no cooldown.
We use auto click so Ironfur not having a cooldown is very bad for us. /cast Ironfur uses Ironfur immediately and continuously, if able, all of the time. Applied 2 stacks of Ironfur 1s ago? Have 40 Rage? Here’s another one. 100% Ironfur uptime, two stacks, at the cost of all of your rage.
2) Maul also uses rage (obviously), which is why sequence Ironfur with it.
A /castsequence can govern the amount of times Ironfur is AUTOMATICALLY applied. I used to have Ironfur on it’s own standalone key but the goal of this project is to reduce human input not press Ironfur every 7 seconds.
3) CTRL: WA > Ironfur > Triggers.
Go look at what’s possible with GSE triggers if you want to make alterations, not GSE all the time. They are insanely capable and can track anything (almost). Be creative and merge the two addons. Check out the other triggers
TLDR: Ironfur can’t be used unrestricted because it’s off the GCD. I’ve tried Ironfur in abt 1000 different ways 
. Pressing every 7s is not something I want
I have Maul sequenced and Ironfur on control, see WA triggers…
If you remove Maul from the GSE you’re going to be either over capped or rage or over casting Ironfur. Ironfur refresh is once every 7s. You generate a lot more rage than 40per/7s. That’s why I’m keeping it in the GSE but I did lower it’s change of being fired.
Swipe is used as filler and as a governor to reapply Moonfire
Significant changes to GSE
- Increased Mangle Usage
- Lowered Maul Usage
- Other Stuff
Small Change to IF WA trigger
- Guarantees 100% update with Maul sequenced (see triggers)
I totally understand everyone has different playstyles personally tho I think it being off the gcd is great and that you do really want every crumb of rage on ironfur (at least in high keys with this talent build.) the only two things your using it for are iron fur and frenzied regen and even spamming ironfur ive always been able to get one off granted im doing +9’s and 10’s so I think its necessary for the content im doing and my damage is always pretty solid obviously a raid build is going to be different since your not always tanking the boss and then it makes sense to have ironfur on cntrl for tank busters and such still love all your stuff I just need to tweak it for the specifics things I do as guardian.
This all makes complete sense unless you are doing M+ high keys. Burning all rage on ironfur is basically required. So it just depends on content. WIth that said I am gonna give your update a try and see how it performs. I should mention also I do not use auto click. I manually click the buttons. Main fire is on my first side mouse button. Ironfur - your ctrl modifier is bound to r, so I have CTRL set up similar to how Wilson described as a pure dps button for when I dont need the defensives. This way I can do high keys but also blast through delves or world content with ease. Regardless I love what you have done here and appreciate all your work. I actually recently am trying your setup out on my SPriest. Still getting the hang of that one.
For Iron Fur by making a seperate macro and either binding it to a toggle on/off key or adding in
/click (macroname) entry in main macro, it will maintain the stacks but will not create them so if you want max stacks you need to manual cast them. it may be an idea the have an opener macro with /click [mod:?] (opener name) however thats a wasted moddifer key so maybe a run once macro per target but again our issue is the lack of reading stacks so I think manual cast to stack is most suitable then let macro maintain stack.
Edit :
/cast Ironfur
/click pause 7 (or 6 if you want to clip)
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So I’ve been thinking about this problem for awhile I just tanked in raid and I think your gse is perfect for raid tanking lets u on demand ironfur for tank busters its great so What ive just done now is made 2 nomods one thats your original one for raids and solo content and one thats specifically for high m+ that spams ironfur and I just have em set to load based on what talent tree im on
Guardian Update
- Ironfur maintained at >=2 stacks by CTRL and applied automatically via sequences when not in a group
- Maul / Ironfur Logic (
group:party(M+) /nogroup)
/cast [@mouseover,combat,help,dead] Rebirth
/cast [@mouseover,nocombat,help,dead] Revive
/cast [combat,nostance:1] Bear Form
/castsequence [group:party,nochanneling] Ironfur
/castsequence [combat,nochanneling] Maul, Ironfur
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This is PERFECT tyty!