FTDB Havoc for Mythic+ TWW Season 2

I tested it by reallocating 1 point from Chaotic Disposition into Essence Break, then ran simulations using RaidBots across different scenarios. Here are the results:

Simulation Results

Scenario Before After Change
AOE (5 targets, 3 min) 5.847M DPS 5.768M DPS -0.079M
Single Target (3 min) 2.696M DPS 2.719M DPS +0.023M
Dungeon Slice 3.638M DPS 3.605M DPS -0.033M

TL;DR

  • Small gain on single-target
  • Slight loss in AOE and dungeon scenarios

Was Essence Break used just before using Blade Dance and Chaos Strike in your test, for the 4sec 80% damage increase?

I didn’t test it myself, I ran it though raidbots, simming my /simc output with each talent loadout (6 total sims). Someone smarter than me will have to tell you if the simulationcraft APL will handle that properly, but i assume so.

Hi, I wanted to thank you for your work and I have a request :smiley: would it be possible to create a manual sequence instead of the automated sequence, such as one that allows you to use meta, eye beam, and the sigils yourself? That would definitely maximize the damage in M+, as you can decide for yourself Otherwise, the macro just uses everything one after the other and it doesn’t differentiate between the pull being over and there’s only one mob left, or the pull having started and It use everything. and it often wastes something like meta just before the fight is over and that weakens you for the next pull and does no damage

it would also make the build more flexible because you can, for example, switch off things like essence break and use it manually as needed.

Just wanted to thank you for this sequence. I just got 3k io with it! Well done.

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For those who want to see the sequence in action. Here is my DH (ilvl 667) in a +10 Rookery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeO2h9gWrik

Great macro ! works well in mythic keys ! has anyone tested in raids? how is it and is there any adjustments for raiding ?

It’s not really suited for ST raiding, as you end up wasting time on aoe abilities, which are not required in 90% of the boss fights.

This build is purely for Mythic+, Dungeons, Delves and open world content.

Thanks for making the video!

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Unfortunately, this is out of date now. Fel-Scarred just doesnt stack up to Aldrachi Reaver. dps is low as a result.

Then this is something, which has changed recently, as I’m sure Fel-Scarred was the spec for M+ for a while now.

9 times out of 10 I’m top of the damage meters in AOE, Boss fights & overall damage done in the Mythic+ dungeon.

Also remember that these sequences are never going to outperform someone of the same class, same ilvl, who knows what they’re doing with manually pressing of their skills.

So if Archon.gg is saying Aldrachi is better, it doesn’t mean the current build here doesn’t work perfectly fine :slight_smile:

I’ll sim my character in both Fel-Scarred & Aldrachi and see what the numbers are like.

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Yeh with my toon Aldrachi sims and performs better. also other sequences with aldrachi are performing better then this one. ive looked at not just Archon, they all seem to be almost identical and all Aldrachi..
I did notice though, Fel seems to peak really high really quick. I didnt see those numbers on Ald.. but overall fel drops off super fast in my tests.
Im no pro. hense why i use gse. im a toon whore and dont play much. I know stats on toons and gear make big differences. and a lot of times talents are set for bis gear etc.. But i dont have good gear lol i just go for ilvl most of the time and its been consistent with talents.

Sims of both builds in a 5 boss target dummy over 5 minutes:

Currently, the sequence from FTDB, pushes out around what is being simmed. However, the Aldrachi sequences on here, push out around 4mil and nothing really higher than that.

Things could change and FTDB may be able to push something out for that build. But for the time being in my personal opinion I’ll be sticking with the Fel-Scarred build, as I’m liking the numbers that are being generated :slight_smile:

I think the reason Aldrachi has that higher overall due to it having a better single target damage. Where Fel can also deal good single target damage, but it is more aimed towards AoE.

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I’ll give the Aldrachi build a try in a +10 in a moment and see if there is any real difference in terms of the general overall performance.

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id be keen to see. If thats the case then this sequence does work close to sim. and im only playing with dummies atm. as i dont want to try m+ with the dmg i was doing.

You have to understand that just because a spec sims better doesn’t mean that it will perform better when used as a gse sequence. You need to optimize your spec and build around the limitations of GSE and how the limitations on how you can control what abilities are being used.

Sure, Aldrachi reaver performs better when played manually vs fel scarred, but not in a gse sequence.

I’d be happy for someone to prove me wrong, I’d love to do more dps :slight_smile:

For now, I’m just about done clearing all +13’s.

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Exactly!

I’m going to run a +10 Priory right now, and I’ll record the attempt and upload it. Going to try out the Aldrachi build and a sequence for it.

Hopefully I can then do another +10 Priory in your build and see what the overall difference is. I believe we’ll see higher overall performance from yours, just from what I’ve seen myself after using your sequence since I found it.

ill try this one in lfr. but on dummies the Ald gse sequences do more dmg for me. consistently.

So I was right in the sense it’s “better” to a degree on bosses, and it’s more sustain, than bursty. I still don’t know why people keep having felblade part of the sequence, when that skill will ALWAYS get you killed.

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