GS-E/GS-E2 7.3 FROST

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you don’t need horn of winter…you don’t need the two piece or four piece… biggest thing is to get a good start… if you have the ring…you can make the Breath go well over a minute… as I posted in the how to do a good BoS… the directions are there… as for which is the better dps… it is dependent on your gear the better gear the better dps… the better trinket or ring or helm will help you easily prolong the breath build…

Right from the boards… World of Warcraft Forums

in the words of the great rick flair “WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”

I see this question a lot… people saying they can’t switch to BoS because they don’t have 2/4 set/legendaries/ect. This is such a strange thing to say, because most legendaries don’t actually effect your BoS gameplay considerably - though 2 and 4 set definitely does - its still vastly superior to obliteration in the same situations.

so I put on my lowest ilvl trinkets (860 eye 865 darkmoon) picked up the class hall set, whatever jewelry I could use to get to 20% haste(my preference) and yes, I kept my relics in my weapon(so it’s 921, 2 ambi, 1 RW)

I DO use freezing fog here, and I still believe it’s going to be the best talent even without set bonuses or helm, because it gives you more burst when you burst, and more AoE when you aoe - at the cost of an occasional extra oblit.

that said though - this is the gear level you’d be using going into NORMAL EN. not even normal NH. I have absolutely 0 legendaries equipped aswell - you will obviously have atleast a decent stat stick legendary

its a 5 minute parse, 400k pure ST on raid dummy. that means atleast 400k on krosus at 859 gear level. edit: i moused over my abilities in details so you could see my average hit for them, showing you that the 921 weapon doesnt make my average casts of abilities crazy or anything.

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Thank you, much appreciated!

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No clue how he is parsing that, I am doing the same thing he is in the vid and have 29k str, 21% crit, 20% haste, 3% vers and 41.51% mastery and can’t get near 400k ST on the raid dummy. I’m assuming his weapons are making all the difference? My weapons are ilvl 876? my ilvl is 881, no legendary for frost.

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[quote quote=45111]No clue how he is parsing that, I am doing the same thing he is in the vid and have 29k str, 21% crit, 20% haste, 3% vers and 41.51% mastery and can’t get near 400k ST on the raid dummy. I’m assuming his weapons are making all the difference? My weapons are ilvl 876? my ilvl is 881, no legendary for frost.
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several factors actually that make this video pointless. first, his weapon is Lvl 54, No body leveling a DK at the 850 item level bracket with have the weapon maxed and that’s like a 15% damage boost there, and thats not taking his relics into account either. Second is his trinkets while the item level is low the bonuses are actually decent until you get the ones in NH. even then the eye that he has drops from the last boss in Kara and pugging that most won’t look at you unless you are 870.

Lastly he is on the org training dummies which last I checked are tuned for 85 content, why didn’t he use the ones in the order hall I wonder? I bet because he would parse lower numbers.

Look at the end of the day I’m going to stick to my guns at this but each is to their own as to when to BoS or not

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John,

I imported your Frostscythe AOE macro from your 13 Feb update without issues. However, when I go to fire it off, nothing happens. It doesn’t even cast the Pillar of Frost. Not sure what the issue is as the Obliteration Raid Build macro works fine. FYI, I did make the talent build changes to match the macro.

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Hey John I’m still kinda iffy on the macro terminology but for your breathe macro how can I change it so that it fires off 2 oblits then remorseless winter then BoS then pillar of frost in that order? And in the macro for when BoS is on cooldown is there a way to add more oblits and frost strikes and only enough Howling Blasts to refresh the dot? I don’t wanna go switching stuff around and end up making it hang, thanks so much for your time

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The reason I asked that is because by making those changes you can keep breath up for an average of 40 secs without lust with just your 4 set and belf racial

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[quote quote=45284]Hey John I’m still kinda iffy on the macro terminology but for your breathe macro how can I change it so that it fires off 2 oblits then remorseless winter then BoS then pillar of frost in that order? And in the macro for when BoS is on cooldown is there a way to add more oblits and frost strikes and only enough Howling Blasts to refresh the dot? I don’t wanna go switching stuff around and end up making it hang, thanks so much for your time
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Well ill put this here and see if its is close to what you are after. with Credit and props going to BlueFalcon
who had some ideas that I have taken on board and made some changes so let me know how you find these.

the changes are mainly to the Breath and you can use as an opener as well, so you start with the breath macro and it will just Oblit and RW, then after 2-3 oblits you hold Shift and will fire BoS and PoF once breath is running you let go of shift and oblit away with tapping Alt for HB on procs, HRW is still applied manually.

Sequences['BoSbreath'] = {
-- This Sequence was exported from GSE 2.0.14.
  Author="Memnokers@Muradin",
  SpecID=251,
  Talents = "3123232",
  Default=1,
  Icon='Spell_Deathknight_FrostPresence',
  MacroVersions = {
    [1] = {
      StepFunction = [[Sequential]],
      KeyPress={
        "/cast [mod:alt] Howling Blast",
      },
      PreMacro={
      },
        "/cast [mod:shift] !Breath of Sindragosa",
        "/cast [mod:shift] Pillar of Frost",
        "/cast Obliterate",
        "/cast Remorseless Winter",
      PostMacro={
      },
      KeyRelease={
      },
    },
  },
}

   
Sequences['BoS'] = {
-- This Sequence was exported from GSE 2.0.14.
  Author="Memnokers@Muradin",
  SpecID=251,
  Talents = "3123232",
  Help = "Rotation to use while BoS is on CD",
  Default=1,
  Icon='INV_MISC_QUESTIONMARK',
  MacroVersions = {
    [1] = {
      StepFunction = [[Sequential]],
      KeyPress={
        "/cast [combat] Pillar of Frost",
        "/cast [mod:alt] Howling Blast",
      },
      PreMacro={
      },
        "/castsequence  reset=combat  Frost Strike, Remorseless Winter, Frost Strike, Obliterate",
        "/castsequence  reset=combat  Obliterate, Frost Strike, Frost Strike, Obliterate, Obliterate",
        "/castsequence  reset=combat  Frost Strike, Obliterate",
        "/cast [combat] Obliterate",
      PostMacro={
      },
      KeyRelease={
        "/targetenemy [noharm][dead]",
      },
    },
  },
}
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Hi John thx for the macros works great
I have a qusetion about "/cast [mod:alt] in sequence i do not seem to be able to get it to work
i do Use AHK(auto hot key) as the spam for the button, is there a way to write in,in the ahk script tried it but cant seem to get it to work when i press alt or crtl, if you or any could help that would be great thx.

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John, I like your Obliteration build and have been using when I can run as it’s my off spec. I get decent DPS numbers considering I’m Blood heavy attributes. I also tried the Frostscythe build but only on a practice dummy. So obviously, I didn’t get the full effect to see numbers. The problem is that it requires a constant shift in talents, which eats through tomes on raid runs. I’m wanting to increase more AOE damage using the Obliteration build, is it possible to weave the Frostscythe talent it into the Obliteration build without having it set as an alt or shift trigger? And what’s your thoughts on losing Runic Attenuation from the Obliteration build? Thanks

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[quote quote=45512]John, I like your Obliteration build and have been using when I can run as it’s my off spec. I get decent DPS numbers considering I’m Blood heavy attributes. I also tried the Frostscythe build but only on a practice dummy. So obviously, I didn’t get the full effect to see numbers. The problem is that it requires a constant shift in talents, which eats through tomes on raid runs. I’m wanting to increase more AOE damage using the Obliteration build, is it possible to weave the Frostscythe talent it into the Obliteration build without having it set as an alt or shift trigger? And what’s your thoughts on losing Runic Attenuation from the Obliteration build? Thanks
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simple solution is to take the Frostscythe macro and change Glacial Advance to Obliteration.

but the juggle from AOE to ST is real the more you focus DPS one way the other loses out.
personally im happy with the amount of cleave aoe the oblit macro does especially when you work out the best positions to capitalize on it

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So there has been a very minor update to the Oblit macro. First I moved the timing of Empower Rune weapon so it does not fire off instantly when you first hit the macro at full runes, it is slightly delayed so you have 3 or more on CD when it fires for the first time.

second is Talents. It now used Gathering storm instead of Runic attenuation for a dps increase.
also if geared the right way you could also try dropping frozen pulse for freezing fog.

with this set up my on my character so results may vary in averaging 35k less DPS than my BoS in sims
but in game depending on fight I average the same sometimes more sometimes less again depends on fight.

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when is the macro gonna be posted?

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[quote quote=45748]when is the macro gonna be posted?
[/quote] it was in the op
realise though it was only minor change the big thing is the talent changes. FYI i now have the Legendary belt and 4pc set so results may vary

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John I attempted to import your macro in and I seem to get the same code Storage (string"srotage"):3: unexpected symbol near ‘?’ …can anyone understand what I have to do to fix this

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[quote quote=45779]John I attempted to import your macro in and I seem to get the same code Storage (string”srotage”):3: unexpected symbol near ‘?’ …can anyone understand what I have to do to fix this
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Internet Explorer?
Try switching to Chrome

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John as always your work is top notch!
Any chance us old school peeps could get a original GS format, one of these days I will make the swap I swear it!
Also you mentioned if geared appropriately for that talent swap, what are you referencing stats or a certain piece of gear?

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OK John… Im coming to the master… I haven’t had much of an opportunity to test the upcoming patch on PTR…Planting season is here in florida and such…that and introducing some new livestock to the older livestock so they don’t kill each other…do you think we will need to REALLY Tweak our macros or do you think we are ok where we stand at this time? or will we be trying to figure out a new build and rotation??

                               ***Your Thoughts Sir***
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Short answer no, from what I have seen patch notes wise and tested somewhat briefly, there is nothing that changes the rotation.

The nerf to the helm will tone down howling blast somewhat, but with the 10% overall damage increase and new traits overall dps will still increase accordingly.

The only thing I will be watching when live is if the use of HB is reduced slightly with runes diverted for obits and RW. But that is just me as all my relics boost blast radius