No problem actually you helped big time with the console command. It sucks you have to do it each login but it works for now. I’m sure over the next few months this will be fixed but for now, I owe you a big thank you.
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Did some messing around with your code. I took out the Stance:0, Stance:1/2/3 and Stealth out and it works fine. You just don’t get the neat Stealth/Ambush trick. Hope this will help you debug it.
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Thanks for the fix, yea that’s leftover from Elf’s code I didn’t touch that. I think its optimized well, but a small improvement like that might help that. I’ll make that update when I get home tonight and upload the original post.
Hi Moonsorrow,
Thanks for providing this, am I doing something wrong here? My SND is not kept up at all? It’s only used once at the beggining and thats it, also it never uses Between the eyes?
Thanks,
Synchro
Hmm I don’t know I need more details. I don’t seem to have that issue.
Let me know what sort of details and I’ll provide them
Do me a favor and create a LOOM video as you run the macro. Also, are you using any hardware emulation like iCUE or Synapse?
need a macro for a outlaw from starting lvl 20 to 70 that will work for patch 10.0.0 please
I won’t make one that is dedicated to the leveling experience. I’m all about the end game and have no intention of making a leveling one.
I went back to take a look at this, I don’t seem to have this issue at all. What are you running like iCUE or some other software?
The macro works fine at the moment, I was under 60 and perhaps that was the issue, however the DPS is nowhere near as close as if I play the rogue “by hand” I understand thats not this specific macro issue but GSE in general. It is very hard to make GSE for combo skill point specs and use specific skill at the right time, the macro will often cap on energy or not use finisher while on max combo points and keep waiting until blade flurry for example becomes available. My rogue currently is ilvl 265 - in mythics the macro is doing 5 to 6k single target while by hand I can reach 9k - again this is not blaming this macro in specific, dont take it the wrong way 
its never suppose to be same as if you do it manually. these authors do their best but there is no way the macros will come close to actually playing yourself
Yep Exactly what I said in my previous post
Here is the challenge, I bet I run the macro the way I do, and you play manually and we will be equal or my DPS will be higher.
To explain why, this is a user error, not a macro error. My DPS with my Outlaw Rogue is well over 10k DPS running that macro. As explained earlier, if you’re not running hardware emulation like iCUE then you’re doing yourself a disservice. Seriously if you want to be competitive, then purchase something like this and try running the macro and you’ll see your DPS go way high. If you’re manually clicking, or running AHK or some other junk your not going to be doing that great with DPS.
I’m tired of proving to people and other posts here that the DPS is actually very good. Seriously all of you guys are the same, you claim that your DPS sucks but you don’t use the tools that I tell you to use so you’re doing yourself a disservice.
I make these macros to help the community out, and I can understand if there is a bug but by wholly claiming the macro DPS isn’t up to par compared to manually clicking. Get the F out of here!
If you want to see your DPS increase and do it correctly with the tools use a macro keyboard like this: https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-K57-Wireless-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B083TPWW7N/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2VKBBVRN6HCHG&keywords=k57&qid=1668983064&sprefix=k57%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-1
Until then, please stop making claims when you have no proof of logs, or anything else. Again in this case it’s a user error, not a macro error.
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Christ all mighty dude, why go so defensive? I said multiple times in my post “It’s not the macro fault” but for some reason you completly ignored that and went off on one. I am using this mouse to spam the macro: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Hero-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B07L4LRCXN/ref=sr_1_1?crid=221IKCG5YXN48&keywords=g403&qid=1668984384&sprefix=g403%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-1 250ms and yes it does not do 10k single target DPS on ilvl 265 - would love you to show me a video that it does…
Change it to 100 ms if you have the hardware emulation use 100 if you use AHK use 250. That right there could be an issue with your DPS, again which is written in the help text of the macro and on the original post.
I went on the defensive because as I said the issue with the macro isn’t the macro it’s you. You’re blaming me for creating a bad macro when you just posted that you’re running the wrong MS. Again user error.
You can set the MS in GHUB, I have a Logitech Mouse and I can set it there too.
Just an FYI, I mentioned this to Elf too in SL, that 250 ms actually makes for low DPS. That is why I put 100 ms, and it works fine for me and I get great DPS out of it.
well i apologize if i said something out of place. i do appreciate all the authors do here as i posted
If there is anything that can be done to squeeze out a bit more DPS, it might be including another few SS or Pistol Shots so you get a better Dispatch but it’s not really needed, seeing at 70 you’ll be generating more combo points. At 60 because of how combo points work, I’m doing between 5-6 CP Dispatches, sometimes it will go down to 4 but like others have said you are not going to get the super great DPS that you can guarantee a Dispatch at 7 CP.
I’ll also mention, due to haste, we have more energy than it’s needed and that could also be an issue that we have to deal with.
But I have said this in other posts, I’m not going to make major changes at 60 when the expansion is literally less than 10 days away. At 70 that is when those adjustments will be made, not just by me, but by Elf, Gua, and even sites like Icy Veins and Wowhead. So please be patient, and do not forget there are UI issues like crazy too with ElvUI, and others that are causing a lot of other issues too.
In the future, do a SimCraft on the macro and see your results. I did one recently on mine, and I hit 92%. So I’m happy.
Somethings to note to help. To boost the DPS of Dispatch, there are certain things that have to be done. Firstly both Sinister Strike and Pistol Shot can generate more combo points, this is the case with Pistol Shot which each shot generates a combo point. In this case, because of the talent “Fan the Hammer” each quick shot of Pistol Shot will award 3 combo points. This is the same due to Weaponmaster, and by default how Sinister Strike works.
The issue is that you will over-cap on combo points, no matter what, and this can be a good thing because then you are always using Dispatch at the highest level. The issue though, is that if you are over the cap for too long, your just wasting DPS. Secondly, because of how Opportunity works, you should only be casting Pistol Shot when it procs.
So here is my solution, and I’ll need some time to actually test this out properly, but there are two solutions. One is to keep Pistol Shot the way it is and understand that you will cap out on combo points, to fix that solution, I could add Dispatch to a shift modifier, and remove it from the actual cast sequence. This might be the best solution, but the second solution would be to keep the macro the same and remove Pistol Shot from the macro, and put it on a shift modifier. Then use either WA or add Pistol Shot to a slot in-game, so the game notifies you when Opportunity is ready to be fired.
I think the issue is just overlapping combo points, which is going to be hard to modify due to the RNG of RTB, Sinister Strike, and the 3 shots of Pistol Shot that go off.
According to SimCraft, I’m doing about 9.9k on average in a raid, and I should be doing about 10k DPS, so I’m very close to what I should be doing. I also tested this on a heavy movement boss like Kel and my DPS there was at 8.8k, while a little lower, it’s because of the heavy moment. When testing SimCraft, you want to make sure it’s a Patchwerk-type encounter, and those do not really exist anymore.
As for Dreadblades, it’s a very good talent but can cause issues with the rotation, Killing Spree is the worst talent overall, as Sinister Strike hits harder. At 70 this might change to where the left side of the Outlaw tree might be better as it’s more normalized, whereas the right side is more RNG based. Though the right side does more damage.
I also tested out the @John-Metz rotation, to see if that would fix the issues and while my DPS was for a while did go up, it used up way too much energy. I think the happy medium is going to be Mine/Elf and John’s rotation overall to get the better numbers. I think the @John-Metz rotation is very solid, but needs some work too, which I will be happy to help improve when time prevails.
At 70, we can start putting points into Triple Threat, and Sepsis/Ghostly Strike which could improve the rotation as well.
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you can mitigate the energy loss by adjusting input speed, I’ve just finished revising the Assassination spec. and as i listed there for me at least 160ms was the sweet spot for never falling below 40 energy
but will vary from player to player based on character gear and haste %.
I also put Ambush on mod to be used only on procs and preferably after a finisher. so you don’t over cap
and waste combo points.
with the outlaw side of things, the changes to combo and over cap Ill note when i update outlaw.
might even make my life easier