Pickled Beastie! - M+, Raid & PvP (Pack Leader & Dark Ranger)

btw i played both dev and bm i love bm but wanted try new thing very bad idea that why i came back to bm and glad they buff it lil tyvm for gse sequnces

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Sure I’ll have a look right now. It should be fine, considering the update/changes 3 days ago. Either the maker of GSE is doing something really weird, that is causing this problem or something is happening on the backend with Blizzard.

Ok give this a try, it should work as I just removed, saved, and added again, saved it. So it should be updated to the version of GSE and not continue to give those errors.

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One question, how is your playstyle? Like spamming the button or not so much? :smiley:

Unfortunately, we cannot go into much detail these days due to the new rules that have been put in place for this website and the forums. We are not able to discuss that type of thing anymore. All I can really say is that when it comes to using the sequence options that the GSE software provides, go with what you actually like to use. That is the best way I can explain it without going into details, which is now against the rules.

With that said, below is the sequence I am using for the Pack Leader cleave build. It is essentially the single target Pack Leader sequence with Wild Thrash added to it.

After looking over Archon.gg and reviewing the builds used for every boss in raids, Dark Ranger is not used at all. When it came to cleave or bosses that required some AOE, I had been using Dark Ranger because that was the Mythic Plus spec, but Dark Ranger is purely for Mythic Plus. You do not want to use it for raiding.

So, to keep it simple, use the Pack Leader single target build on bosses that are purely single target. For bosses like the dragons or the paladins, use the Pack Leader cleave sequence, which is listed below along with the talent build.

Pack Leader Raid Cleave v1.1:

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Pack Leader (Raid Cleave talents):

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I managed to maximize my DPS by removing Cobra Shot from the last block.

Yeah, you know, I always say that if you can make alterations to make it feel better for you, then by all means do it. However, I would recommend deleting that block altogether, because all you have now is a block with just the modifiers, and every block should already have modifiers in it. If that makes sense.

When I was doing some testing, I noticed Cobra Shot was not firing as much as I wanted it to. That is why I added the extra Cobra Shot at the bottom, just to make sure that when the global cooldowns repeat during the rotation, Cobra Shot will eventually land in a good spot to fire. If it works for you and you have noticed it increases your damage, whatever the margin may be, then that is great.

What ever happened with the Pack Leader M+ version? Also is it possible to have 2 buttons? 1 for aoe and one for ST?

When it comes to Mythic+, you will never be running Pack Leader. All the information currently available shows that Dark Ranger is the only option, and based on all the testing I have done up to +14 keys in Mythic+, you will not need to worry about single target & area damage buttons. In Mythic+, your talents are specifically built for area damage rather than single target damage.

Because of this, there is no reason to use two separate keys or buttons for the same purpose, as it will not be effective. The abilities you use are determined by the talents you select, and you cannot change those talents once inside a Mythic+ dungeon.

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oh alright well ill give it a try and report back! Cheers! only asked cause im used to 2 buttons :stuck_out_tongue:

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So for those wondering about key progression in Mythic+, this is what I’m currently at, while using my sequence:

I know I can do higher keys, but that of course its out of my control and in the hands of the groups I try and join. I could run my own keys, but to be honest I’m too lazy, when I can just spam 5 requests and wait :stuck_out_tongue:

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Hey Pickled! I was just wondering out of curiosity, for your DR M+ build, do you just use the same sequence for ST as well? Like an All-in-one?

Edit: I asked this and did not read that you replied to someone with kind of like the same general question above. Cheers!

Yeap I use it for both AOE & ST.

From what I’ve seen in all the runs I’ve done, when it comes to single-target bosses, most of the time you will end up anywhere between 60k and 100k single-target damage. It really depends on who the other three DPS are. Remember that you will be using your trinkets and your combat potions whenever they are off cooldown. The damage output can be very random.

A lot of it also comes down to your gear, the keys you are running, and the group you are with. Certain group compositions provide extra benefits, like having a Shaman or a Warrior for physical damage buffs. All of that affects your overall performance.

From my experience, I have not had any problems. I almost never find myself below the tank in terms of damage. I am usually second or first for most of the runs I have done. There have been a few times where I ended up third, but that was because the players in that group were simply very strong.

What I’ll try to do is record one of my next runs. I still need to complete three more +14 keys to finish my Resilience 14 achievement and the key progression requirement, so when I get into one of those, I’ll try to record it. That way you can see exactly how the damage looks throughout the run and get a clear idea of how everything plays out.

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Hi, im vision impaiired and i like your macro but for some reasonm it is not casting black arrow? and i dont know why and what to do to fix it. in the gse builder thing it says “Rotation Warnings

  • 1 spell skipped (talent not selected): Black Arrow” is there a fix for this?

Are you making sure that you’re using the correct talents, which is for Dark Ranger?

i assume you edited the DR build on block 11 as PL build ends on block 10?

really nice sequence been using for a bit with pretty good gear. the odd time im sitting with nothing to cast but cobra shot and the sequence dont do it, any suggestions on where to add it? thanks

I don’t se Dark Ranger ST :frowning:

Hello pickle, i sent you a message on here using the chat feature.

Because Dark Ranger is Mythic+ only and is only AoE.

Before I forget and jump into the game, just remember that when it comes to single target you will be using Pack Leader as that is far superior in terms of dmg output compared to a single target Dark Ranger.

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