Wenlo - The Way of the Crane: A Raid and Mythic+ Build for Midnight Mistweaver Monk (Updated for S2)

Hey there, i noticed that when playing celestial with ur sequence this season i often get stuck on the tiger palm/blackout kick part and not spending the rising sun kick therefore. I can check if i can provide a log, but it doesnt seemt to happen on dummies that much. Anything i can change to get the rsk higher up? Using ur talents and the 2nd variant of the sequence.

As always big thanks for the continuos efforts.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Wb9CwrVXPkM1tYpB?fight=3&type=healing

Delete the sequence and copy paste it again and tell me if you still got that issue if it was on the celestial one it should be fixed

Checked the replay of your log but everything seems normal nobody died from a lack of healing they only died from slacking in aoe or failed mechanic like killing all the venom orb in same time on pack near last boss.

But you could do better with spinning a bit more on pack and maybe more spot heal with sheilun (only on certain specific mechanic) after each rsk if you feel the need.
But for Sheilun part its not mandatory i did an 18+ Altar without pressing it an single time


https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RCGMgbVHj8acB9W6?fight=48&type=summary
I take an past log of my 15+ altar so you could compare (was using MoH on that one) but for the rest it should be similar
(an another 15 altar)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RCGMgbVHj8acB9W6?fight=5&type=healing&source=47

Also you got almost no mastery try to reduce a bit the Haste/crit to get more Mastery overall it gonna make your life easier. (Mastery is more important than Crit for M+ and almost equal to Haste)

And i see you play with Conduit so like i answer to HemiHelp, delete the Celestial sequence and copy paste it again just in case

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Will do that, thank you!

After playing like three keys i can say that adding another rsk helps, but after the reset (i think) the macro still tends to hang. will gho over to filling in manually i guess for now :slight_smile:

That shouldnt happen can you take an screenshot of the sequence setting you use and put it here ?

Do you mean of your Sequence in GSE or some GSE general settings?

sorry if its been answered before, but for the no apex build now, are people running celestial or MoH ? there are soooo many comments in this thread its hard to keep track of what is what :smiley:

im not healing like 15+ etc its just a chill alt for capping 10 / 12 keys, so i cba with apex build :smiley:

much appreciated !

@bonal_lucas While running your CoS Raid build with Apex, I’ve found that my damage is parse’ing very well, 80-95, but even when I hit those damage parse’s, my healing seems low. I am using Chi-ji on big damage moments as well as Celestial Conduit. Then I am spot healing with Renewing Mist and Vivify. Any ideas? Healing being low as in parse’ing greens.

Will check when i got time

Celestial is the most common choice but for 10/12 key you can play what ever build you want, dps rotation is enough to heal everything alone on that kind of difficulty

“running your CoS Raid build with Apex”
“I am spot healing with Renewing Mist and Vivify”

Certainly the main problem here, you dont want to do that if you play with Apex build in raid its just pure melee rotation with envm time to time to activate the spiritfont and Haste/Mastery as stat. But you never press something else manually (no vivify or rem)



As exemple here my log with the Apex build. You can see that i literally press nothing more than the melee rotation + Enveloping Mist time to time just to proc Spirit Font but that’s about it.

OR you play the AT + Hot build where you want to play Haste/Crit and spread your rem on top of your melee rotation + vivify but its managed by the sequence.
here the log of an S1 boss with that rotation so you can see the diff in term of spell used

But you cant mix the two like you do.

As for the healing parse there just so many factor who have to be taken into account thats its rarely an good metric to check without seeing the rest of the big picture (number of healer,class,raid difficulty) for exemple if you do some hc raid boss as 4 healer for 20 people and some other healer did the same fight as 3 healer no matter how good you did you will got bad parse compared to them.

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sure. take ur time <3

Thank you for your detailed response! I’ll take your advice and let the sequence do more of the work :wink: You’re the MW G.O.A.T!

@bonal_lucas Do you have a single sequence you have been using for raid at the moment? Or are you swapping between a couple?

Working on clearing Ula’tek Heroic right now. Running the CoS Raid build and I’m capped around 180k HPS. I’m parsing 90+ on my dps, but can’t get higher than a green parse on my HPS (yes, not the best metric.) There is another MW monk in my guild who is running the caster meta build and is over 300k HPS and not much higher ilvl. I’m going to try the MoH build tomorrow, but was wondering if you had any advice or ideas? I’ve taken your previous advice on only using my big CD’s manually, the rest is on automation.

fistweaver right now is unfortunately worst raid healer among all and recent buff to caster monk even increase that gap :frowning: sadly
I stopped playing monk this season after I did 94% parses with 240k hps and I was not able to heal my group so we need to add additional healer, meanwhile holy priest did 86% parses with 330k hps :slight_smile:

As eofen said “recent buff to caster monk even increase that gap” since its only buff all our healing outside of ancient teaching part.
But you can still compete with Yu’lon monk when ever the fight let you melee almost 100% of the time (Ula’tek is a bad one in this case since there a lot of melee downtime so its bad for us and good for them) but on fight like Vashnik where i can fully melee i’m on par with the Yu’lon monk of my roster


https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2n7fKgcwLMBv8NWz?fight=12&type=healing

And you can also see how stupidly broken are Holy priest compared to us, with an 43 parse he do the same Hps than us who are both with an 90 parse (and by pressing less button).

or on Twin Fangs mythic where the healer sham can do almost the same dps/heal than my full dps rotation (5 spell) with an passive proc “rain”


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So ye this season hasn’t been a good one for Monk since Blizzard struggles to balance classes as always.

Only players who have been playing Monk for years and enjoy the class gameplay more than its performance are still sticking with it this season. Most others have switched to other healer classes that are easier to play and can heal significantly more.

But in any case it’s not going to stop us from clearing all the content, even if it’s more difficult for us than for other healers.

Just play Way of the Serpent where you can not hit melee (a.e. Ula’tek) especially on Myt. where you just can not go melee or the ways are too far to dps/renew your hots. Unfortunately it seems Lucas isn’t raiding, or not sharing the Way of the Serpent rotations :slight_smile: