Wenlo - The Way of the Crane: A Raid and Mythic+ Build for Midnight Mistweaver Monk

I did a minute like your video on same targets does this look right?

oops sorry about the text its says I did a minute like your video on the same targets does this look right?

Hey buddy, just want to say thank you, your macro saved me and i was able to raid with my guild yesterday no issues at all ! I initially tried the ā€œcaster onlyā€ build but couldn’t get that one to work. Than changed to a normal melee hot and worked well. Do you have any clues if the caster only one is still working? Cheers

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What build did you use? If it’s the raid build he posted something is wrong. Ancient teachings should be around 30% of your HPS and that comes from attacking a target. So it looks almost like you were out of reach of the target or you had a wonky build.

Its look right, Healing coming from Ancient teaching never worked on Dummy sadly so we cant see that number

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Thanks appreciate ! How did your parses goes during your raid with the melee hot build ?

Caster only build didnt worked ? Thats weird i update it few day ago and it was running perfectly on my side as you can see on the video of me running in during an Mythic. Like the whole thing didnt work or only few spell ?

Ancient Teachings doesn’t show up on meters when attacking dummies.

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Just did 1 boss in lfr again to see new build and how it performs and its smooth like the previous one and here is the outputs.

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I would suggest if you do try to setup a pvp sequence and build base it off the hots build. The original one you had on here. I’ve been using that one in PvE and in PvP and it works great in bgs for sure it’s just not that greatest in arena and to be perfectly honest it’s probably not ever going to be any good in arena. There are entirely too many ranged classes who just take turns chain ccing you so you can never get in range to kick them to throw around heals. The best arena healer for monk is going to be a ranged build. I hate casting and don’t like the playstyle of ranged so I guess I’ll just end up sticking to bgs and ignore arena altogether. I already maxed conquest by joining raids to get war crates took about 8 hours. I don’t exactly need arenas for anything other than ranking to show I’m good. Honestly the 5 or 6 arenas I’ve done being on the losing team most of the time because I’m getting cced to death and can’t heal my team shows me that melee monk is just not it for arenas but if you decided to test it out more I would base your entire pvp build around the HoTs they are superior even with the new patch. I’ve used all the builds in mythics and the HoT’s is still killing it. I’m still using this one II) Fistweaving + Healing Over Time Build
C4QAi6cZM+HWADeySjzG9Lwx8DAAAAAAAghxyMLjZZ2MmZmtZstsNjxmZ2sMzYjhwMgBDzYMzMzwsNMDzmJAAAAwsMtMbzsMb2mZjxACAGMMzgZADMWmMmBA I tried the one where you changed it and added in Sheilun and didn’t feel like it did any better I felt like it did worse. In both pvp and pve. I dunno maybe I’m mistaken but testing it in real situations I’m still using this one.

with that build I’ve literally taken on all classes 1v1 in bgs and world pvp and the only classes that can beat me in a 1v1 is marksman hunter if he is good and uses his traps and ccs to keep me from getting to him. I out heal all of their dmg and even though the dmg is not that great I still win the fight or they run and stop fighting me because they can’t deal any dmg to me. i’ve taken 3v1 and 4v1 in bgs with that HoT’s build it’s incredible in mass pvp as long as I’m not the main focus against good players who are taking turns ccing me like in arena. If 2-3 classes are against me and they take turns cc’ing me so I can’t get off my shields or get some healing they can kill me otherwise it’s not happening.

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I just killed the first 2 bosses with this build, being top heal on both, it works perfectly, I’ll get the log for the next boss I do.

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awesome glad to hear! I will be doing heroic tonight. I’ll let everyone knows how it goes as well. I’m sure it’ll go smooth like normal

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Just did First World on MoH on that heroic boss with the new build it feel awesome :smiley:

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How many ms do you use?

Hey there!

I just came back from a very long WoW break. I tested these sequences and have to say they are absolutely amazing. As i main Brewmaster and SV Hunter I just tried them and they perfom superb.

For some M0s I used the Harmonie-hot build and it did great. Throughput needs to be a little bit higher in some high damage situations, when your cooldowns ran out, but I guess stats matter alot here, as I only have ~ 10% haste and 12% crit.

I then tested the Sheilun build in LFR (haven’t seen the new build till now) and the performance was also great.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:6HaJCg3cZXnMAtDq

For the fun of it I also went into LFR again with the pure DPS build. Thats cool I guess …. :smiley:
Is there some reason for having Enveloping Mist in the DPS rotation here?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:kKmMhrNADHn3aRf1

Here some feedback with things to improve:

  • Add some modifiers to the macros, e.g. Life Cocoon @ mousover, Ring of Peace @ Cursor, etc.
  • Just one build for M+ and one for Raids - don’t get me wrong, I love the different options, talents etc. are still changing alot at the moment, but its really hard to keep track in GSE and the different talent builds.
  • Maybe a little less pictures in your WLM thread and maybe some links to warcraftlogs? But thats just me, as I love checking logs for hours at a time :D.

Thank you so much for the work you do!

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this is from lightblinded vanguard. we did kill crown of the cosmos but that parse was bad because I had to do so much movement and couldn’t really do ton of heals lol

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Awesome ! Actually 86 is far from being an bad parse, it was with the raid build ?

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Thanks for the detailed feedback, I appreciate it.

Yeah, stats matter even more for Monk healing. Until you reach a certain level of haste, you basically feel atrophied it carries a huge part of the spec, so the more haste you get the better everything gonna feels overall. Try to get the two haste trinket in the windrunner mythic one (the one with a proc and the usable with a 2 Min Cd, you can macro it on your Chi-Ji)

If by DPS build you mean the Celestial one (the last) there are actually three versions in the settings: one that’s purely DPS, one that uses Enveloping Mist after each Thunder Focus Tea to activate your Apex talent + Black Ox proc, and one that uses Ancient Teachings instead of Rushing Jade Wind . So if your objective is to just have fun doing the biggest dps possible put the pure dps in the setting of the sequence, if you want to do some pvp/M+ with it use the one with the Envm

The thing is, Mistweaver Monk doesn’t really work in a simple way compared to other classes, where there’s usually one best choice and the rest are worse. There’s a lot of diversity in the possible builds firstly because our Apex talent isn’t mandatory, so you have builds both with and without it, and secondly because gameplay wise it’s almost like having two playstyles in one tree depending on whether you focus on the Crane or Serpent style, as well as your Hero Talent choice.

So you can’t really reduce it to just two basic builds like you can with some other classes

Also, people are looking for different things: some want only the melee rotation automated, others want almost nothing to press, and some want something in between the two extreme, other are looking for PvP sequences. So it’s impossible to satisfy everyone with just two simple sequences.

My goal isn’t to make sequences that are only usable for low-level content like delves or low M+/LFR. I personally use them to clear mythic raids and push high keys, so I need to test them regularly and make sure the performance is good enough for high-end content.
But the challenge with high-end content is that a fully automated button will struggle to handle every situation you encounter. That’s why I provide multiple options and let people choose what fits them best.

I could also make one big sequence with many variants built into it, but most people wouldn’t know how to select the right variant for their playstyle.

I also agree on the QoL part, I might look into adding more modifiers

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My parse from last boss I believe was like a 40 but first time doing her and there is so much movement we gotta do. But I’m sure once I get down movement etc it’ll go up.

Hi,

Two questions. I’m trying to add so that I spam Spinning Crane Kick if I hold Shift. But it will often get clipped or not fire for a long time. Any tips how to get it working reliably?

Second question. In other macros I’m seeing stuff about turning off ā€œActionButtonUseKeyDownā€ and some say to turn it on. What should it be?

Thanks for the response!

I actually didn’t know that there was so much variety in the talent build for monks. Playing without the Apex talents did not even cross my mind. So the different builds for every situation make absolute sense. ;). And I didn’t see that there were different versions inside the DPS build.

As for the raiding build, I did some more testing in NM Voidspire. In only run with pug groups, so killing more than the first three bosses is….. hard :D. But tbh, the results are really solid, even with suboptimal stats.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:TJHfWYd6VhXGFQcA

Again, thanks for this ;).

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