GS-E/GS-E2 7.3 FROST

[quote quote=40579]somethings been bugging me, wouldn’t it be a dps increase if you leave out howling blast of the macro and only hit it to refresh frost fever and when you get rime procs?
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I have pondered this as initially at legion launch I only had it in there once purely for that reason.
however, I added it more as HB was buffed each time in damage. and now once we get the 4 piece set bonus
where it generates RP as well I am kind of on the fence with it.

Actually VS content rather than a dummy though it’s handy to have as you might end up out of position or
possibly get so caught up in the moment you forget or miss a proc, having it in the macro covers it for you.
Also from My Oblit Macro, it gives it a bit of a boost with Trash with a bit of aoe damage.

I’m really interested how much RP the tier will grant. and will it make me seriously consider Breath of Sindragosa. or to weave in more Frost strikes and if I should look at Mastery a little more seriously.

Frostscyth macro is awesome, whether single or aoe im getting better numbers than oblit

same as Ivan :wink:

[quote quote=41565]Frostscyth macro is awesome, whether single or aoe im getting better numbers than oblit
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Interesting to know I may take it for a spin again as I was happy with what my DK is doing with Obit i had not looked back. and looking at the nighthold raid fights It may be the preferred choice again

John,

Any plans on doing a macro for a Breath spec? My talents are 3223312.

Or any tips on modifying one of yours to suit both frostscythe and BoS? (BoS probably shouldn’t be a part of the macro as it needs some specific runic conditions to be cast for max dps)

hi john just a heads up on your new macros I tried to import them last night to no avail and couldn’t get them to import maybe I did something wrong who knows lol but I know you make fantastic macros as I have used them before would love to use the new ones soon when you get a chance pls help

John obl1t is awesome macro congratz. I was wondering can u build some macro which works at the same way but u stack some more runic so u can hit a lot more time when u are in obliteration idk maybe start HB obliterate something like so when u enter in obliteration u hit like 5-7 times obliterate cuz right now i hit only like 3 times maybe is my bad fix me if im wrong i just look to max my dps cuz got here 876ilvl and doing like 300k dps its kind a sad also here 1 tip i just learn and wanna share with u can use /castsequence reset=120 !Obliteration … which means not gonna press it again in the macros till is cd
/… anyway great job mate :slight_smile:

[quote quote=42036]John,
Any plans on doing a macro for a Breath spec? My talents are 3223312.
Or any tips on modifying one of yours to suit both frostscythe and BoS? (BoS probably shouldn’t be a part of the macro as it needs some specific runic conditions to be cast for max dps)
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yes i have one in the works however im not happy with it at this stage as i lack the 4 piece set bonus as well as any form of decent legendary, the ring and or the helm preferred. makes making a BoS macro that does not suck a frustrating endeavor at the moment.

[quote quote=42257]hi john just a heads up on your new macros I tried to import them last night to no avail and couldn’t get them to import maybe I did something wrong who knows lol but I know you make fantastic macros as I have used them before would love to use the new ones soon when you get a chance pls help
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There is a couple of things that could be causing macro import issues often with the browser used or sometimes things like deleting the WTF or gnome sequencer and starting again. but may have to look on the forums for specific details. Do note I always import and test the macros myself before I final post and everything is working.

[quote quote=42361]John obl1t is awesome macro congratz. I was wondering can u build some macro which works at the same way but u stack some more runic so u can hit a lot more time when u are in obliteration idk maybe start HB obliterate something like so when u enter in obliteration u hit like 5-7 times obliterate cuz right now i hit only like 3 times maybe is my bad fix me if im wrong i just look to max my dps cuz got here 876ilvl and doing like 300k dps its kind a sad also here 1 tip i just learn and wanna share with u can use /castsequence reset=120 !Obliteration … which means not gonna press it again in the macros till is cd /… anyway great job mate ???
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I could, but you have to understand the macro is at the point where changing something can mess the whole thing up. the other thing you could do instead of a sequence with a reset function, is create a seperate macro that fires obliterations and spams obliterate you can use when off CD.

The game has many variables and performance will vary. that seems like a cop out but My DK is only 874 in frost gear and while only doing 360k when simmed, I actually break 500k in most fights in nighthold and on Heroic Ursoc Burst past 600k in the opening minutes and depending on the fight legnth level out to 350-400k,
note in the raids that taking pre pots, buffs and things like Bloodlust into account.

you could also see what your character simms as it may be the gear /stat weights that could be adversely affecting you damage output.

Ill ask another silly question like i did about Blood [Wanted to try a dps type class] I know you only have certain skills in your macros so is there any other skills i should have hot-barred and using manually? You mentioned you have a fancy mouse with autoclicking etc is it a case of just tapping leftclick if we have a normal poor mans mouse

if running a non-programable mouse, like i used to, Is to bind it to a key on the board usually the ‘1’ and or ‘2’ keys and mash away at that or there are some programs that enable you to program keybonds so instead of mashing you can just press and hold or toggle on and off.

As for other things I have defensive cooldowns like IBF and AMS kept seperate as well as potions and any DPS cooldown over 2 min in cooldown time like Sindragosa’s Fury when I can control when I need these like lust phases etc

Tip: Keybind your macro to the events MouseWheelUp and MouseWheelDown.

One then uses their finger to frantically scroll up and down with the mouse wheel. The macro fires once per second.

With the way it is now you pretty much have to use the BoS build in order to do good in nighthold heroic, I really hope they balance it out or nerf BoS

God I hope not, I had hope as I was in a pug a couple of days ago and destroyed a DK better geared using it while I was using my Oblit.
his DPS was all over the shop and in short fights 2-3 min yeah slightly better past that though. i just need time to look into it as lately things have ramped up in the guild again som I’m in blood 90% of the time

I think you just got lucky in that pug group most Frost dks are using BoS in nighthold

Yeah I’m still unconvinced though many just play what they read is the best without any form of detailed comparison. what numbers /item level is considered “doing good” in heroic. I also know BoS outside Nighthold is absolute Pants in a lot of situations.

I well get to it but finding time is the trick, as 90% of the time lately when on my DK its as Blood

Ok, last few days ive given frost a go [only played Blood for the last month or so] this macro is great thanks so much, considering WoW is my first mmo i was kinda confused at first with all the skills etc and which rotations but your Blood one has me actually enjoying the game and not worrying about that. Your frost macro does pretty well for me [im nowhere near high enough or geared yet only ilvl-830 no legendaries, and ive tried to get the stats to roughly the % youve mentioned but alas it seems my Blood does far more dmg [Even though ive only got all the trais down both middle lanes for blood and both sides + golden triats x 2 for frost] Thank you again though because of your help ive explored areas, and enjoyed the story without focusing on timings, rotations etc

OK now below is a BOS I have been bashing my head against. it is a little rough around the edges. but can work
The thing is though it consists of 2 macros, one is a rotation which is a variation on one of my early Oblit builds adjusted for the different talents. and the other is the Breath rotation.

Things to note with the breath rotation when this fire off I will keep HoW on CD but Hungering Rune Weapon you have to manage yourself. usually as soon as you see 0-1 runes up fire it off. Howling Blasts are added as a Mod Function by holding alt when Rime Procs. results Will vary

I manage to keep it active for 50seconds give or take 10 seconds. note also I lack a frost legendary and only have 1 tier piece atm.

When not active using the other rotation. like a said its a slight variation of my Oblit minus a few frost strikes so you can still do a bit of DPS and have 60%-100% rp for when you can breath again. HoW is also in thre on CD to help smooth out the rotation a little.

I won’t update the OP for now as I’m not 100% on it and needs testing and feedback at least to iron out kinks
though it would be awesome if i had the gear on my DK for something more optimal.


Sequences['BoSbreath'] = {
  Author="Memnokers@Muradin",  
  SpecID=251,
  Talents = "3323232",
  Default=1,
  Icon='Spell_Deathknight_FrostPresence',
  MacroVersions = {
    [1] = {
      StepFunction = [[Sequential]],
      KeyPress={
        "/cast [mod:alt] Howling Blast",
      },
      PreMacro={
      },
        "/castsequence  reset=1  Breath of Sindragosa, null",
        "/cast Obliterate",
        "/cast Pillar of Frost",
        "/cast Remorseless winter",
        "/cast Horn of Winter",
      PostMacro={
      },
      KeyRelease={
      },
    },
  },
}



Sequences['BoS'] = {
  Author="Memnokers@Muradin",  
  SpecID=251,
  Talents = "3323232",
  Help = "Rotation to use while BoS is on CD",
  Default=1,
  Icon='INV_MISC_QUESTIONMARK',
  MacroVersions = {
    [1] = {
      StepFunction = [[Sequential]],
      KeyPress={
        "/cast [combat] Pillar of Frost",
      },
      PreMacro={
      },
        "/castsequence  reset=combat  Howling Blast, Frost Strike, Remorseless Winter, Frost Strike, Obliterate",
        "/castsequence  reset=combat  Howling Blast, Obliterate, Frost Strike, Frost Strike, Obliterate, Obliterate",
        "/castsequence  reset=combat  Howling Blast, Frost Strike, Obliterate",
        "/cast [combat] Obliterate",
        "/cast [combat] Horn of winter",
      PostMacro={
      },
      KeyRelease={
        "/targetenemy [noharm][dead]",
        "/cast [combat] Anti-Magic Shell",
      },
    },
  },
}

not the same talents and hrw and bos not firing but not bad