Orbalisk's - Troll Slayer for Mythic+/Raid and PvP v. 3.5 (Updated 05/25/26)

Show me your sim options. Are you doing that with no buffs, no extras?

I am not getting your results, so I’m trying to see where that problem might be.

If you are using any talents except the ones I posted, I cannot account for that and you will have different results from me.

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hey Orba!

your Slayer Talent import gives just the lvl 80 points

can you check on this pls ? :slight_smile:

de edit i did was with your talent.

just to be clear, theres no complaint here, might have to do with the speed, 90-120 will be tested tomorrow, just providing data :slight_smile:

went 120 and skips A LOT so thats the wrong way.

Tried 90 and got better result, but also skips, sometimes even 2-3 secs pause

Do not use Slayer, it’s worse overall DPS for M+ and I am having issues with Whirlwind in castsequence. Until that’s fixed by blizzard, use Thane please.

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Hmm. Can you please install GSE Tracker (addon) and see where it hangs up? I won’t be able to test this with better gear until next week. I’m leveling paladin right now and then DK.

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that is a nice feature. Top is the tracker, bottom is trufigcd.
as positioned, where top starts, is the last one of trufigcd. will be good to see
what and where it hangs :slight_smile:
Ill check tomorrow on some different speeds and let u know :slight_smile:

Dunno if i can level another again, 0 investment, a.i written quests. Was such a
drag, had to keep myself behind the pc to finish it. normally i do it in one sitting, now
it took me multiple, and sometimes i just got up and took a nap out of boredom.

I wish i knew what they would change in 2 weeks :stuck_out_tongue: then it would make sense to lvl at least
one more out of the 41 :frowning:

Anyway, rambling… thanks for all the work u do ! appreciate it !

Am i being thick or is thunderclap not in the aoe? Just came back to wow! it seems to be in the st not the aoe. i thought it should be the other way round? could be wrong!

someone if i use that all thunder bolt don´t autocast, do you case thunder bolt manually?

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u mean storm bolt, and yes i would use that on a sep key as it is another interupt, like shockwave f.e

But I still dont understand how 2.8 for me is firing bloodthirst and doing more damage than rampage. Never happened all the other sequences, however its still doing most damage for me :stuck_out_tongue: @Orbalisk

@Orbalisk Can u tell me what speed u test ur macro’s on? Ive read 200 somewhere, then 100 elsewhere, just to make sure i replicate as much as possible to aim for the result. Also what is your world latency.

Also, do you use the /console SpellQueueWindow command to change it from the original 400 to lets say 120 or 90 ? /dump GetCVar(SpellQueueWindow”) to see what yours is. I read that most drop it to 120 or even 90 for faster response time?

Do you always use on use trinkets rather then procs? since all ur macros show use/13

thanks in advance :slight_smile:

Hey, I hate on use trinkets so I don’t use them unless PvPing.

The script you linked returned an error.

I used to use 100, but I was getting lockouts, so I swapped to 200 and haven’t had an issues. :slight_smile:

My ping is 43 to server.

sorry, its this one

            /dump GetCVar("SpellQueueWindow")

Standard is 400 but ive been reading and saw this :

With my setup:

  • World latency: 14 ms

  • Macro spam: 100 ms

  • SpellQueueWindow: 400 ms

that queue window is actually quite large, especially for GSE (Gnome Sequencer Enhanced) macros.

What happens with 400 ms is that WoW may queue an ability much earlier than intended while your macro is still cycling through its sequence. Because you are sending inputs every 100 ms, the client may lock in a spell four presses earlier than the moment the GCD actually ends. That can slightly distort the intended priority order in the macro.

That’s why many GSE users lower it.

Typical values used with macros:

  • 120 ms – very common and stable

  • 90 ms – popular for low-latency players

  • 150 ms – conservative but still better than 400

With your 14 ms latency, something around 90–120 ms usually works very well.

Ill check whats what and if it makes a diff.

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should work now, put it as code , sorry

/dump GetCVar("SpellQueueWindow")

I have no idea when I edited that ever, so not sure if that’s optimal but :Shrug:

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thanks pal, thats good info. Cause 400 is standard. Ill test with 200 now and 200 ms spam :slight_smile:
I dont know how much this could show inconsistencies with others, but its something to take into account :slight_smile:

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Sorry again, but could u put 2.7 up instead of 2.6?I I just reinstalled GSE. If im not mistaken 2.7 was the last one no? besides the 2.8 beta, cause im getting very bad results in 2.6 and mediocre in 2.8 :frowning:

As soon as I get back in computer, sure things.

Make sure that under troubleshooting multiclick is enabled

When you say bad results, can you please be more specific? What is the SIM and what are your numbers against training dummies?

EDIT: I didn’t post a 2.7, at least not at the top. I don’t have it on my GSE list either.

I’m trying to figure out where the DPS loss may be, so the more info the better. What specifically isn’t firing often that should be compared to sim?

I’m missinga TON of tools since Midnight came out, so I’m doing my best with what I have.

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60 k ish on 2.8 and 48 k on 2.6

its on my end, cause you are hitting the numbers, but i dont know what.

edit : Ok. then i had 2.7 still myself since i was leveling for a few days and didnt look at forums, but that one is deleted as i reinstalled. so i took what was available, 2.6 and 2.8 beta

changes : Set SpQ pack to 400, tried 200 ( since u had that ) and 200 ms, back to 400 and 120 ms, 400 and 90ms, and now back at 400 and 100ms ,this was what i had last night. Box is and always has been ticked. I have the exact talents as you do now, warrior, fury and hero.

Somehow i cant even replicate the 72-74 from last night. I noticed this when i went farming this morning, i had 0 dps on anything i attacked. like with the reboot i broke something.

Seems to create gaps if i look correctly at both trufigcd and the tool , i made a video, will pm you the link. I also add the last dmg overview as shown in the video below. Starts to slow down at 25 secs and first skip around 30, few more after that.

thing i notice, yesterday i got a lot of 3 x bloodthirst in a row ( i think close to always when it was used, thats gone now. Video is 2.6 btw

Sending you 2.8 as well in min, skips quite a lot, or hangs , dont know how to call it. this is the dmg output

im definitely missing the 3 x bloodthirsts in a row theres more in 2.8 now but it also skips more, . i remember always seeing 3 in a row. So thats the Burst of power proc.

Burst of Power talent (a Mountain Thane hero talent in The War Within) relies on Lightning Strikes to proc.

  • The Proc: Lightning Strikes have a 15% chance to trigger Burst of Power.

  • The Effect: When Burst of Power procs, your next 2 Bloodthirsts have no cooldown, deal 35% increased damage, and generate 2 additional Rage.

  • Dependency: This proc depends on abilities that trigger Lightning Strikes, such as using Thunder Clap, Raging Blow, or Execute, which are enhanced by the Mountain Thane talent tree.

sorry second upload took a while, had to redo it.