[quote quote=56952]amr is pretty unreliable, thanks for the long reply. is your macro suited for mythic raiding/raiders? im not at that level currently just in heroic atm. going to try that new one above tonight durin heroic n will post results, cheers for the work
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I know AMR, for sims, isn’t the greatest but I’m not looking for the tightest numbers. There’s no way a macro could ever perform like an expert player, so a ballpark is good enough for me. AMR has been very consistent in giving me numbers based on my ilvl and multiple talents that I can actually get to with some hard work, so it’s great for these instances. And in the end when you run the macro in a dungeon or raid and compare against others with the same ilvl as you, you should feel like you’re contributing your fair share to the fight. And with my methodology I think you do.
[quote quote=56955]I dont know if AMR uses the same way like Raidbots do? If so, the results are not corect i think. Pick talents and AMR will give you (mostly) the best gear. Now you are able to chose only one gear set for all talents. [truncated for space]
One button macros. At page one you wrote, that you got higher burst with Priority stepa. I dont remember if you wrote this for the talent chaos blades or Demonic ( i think you changed talents sometime). But if you got highter burst with priority & demonic , would you mind sharing this macro (if you kept it anywhere)? It would be a macro more to use, but i think it would be great for the start of a fight or with BL.
Also i run into situations where a real one button macro sucks. [truncated for space]
And for the high speed clickrate, if i remember right, somewhere timothy wrote GSE is written for 100ms+. That´s hard to test out, with all the critluck / badluck. But i it seem to get higher numbers also. [truncated for space]
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AMR uses crowd sourcing and machine learning, as well as client-side simulation tools like SimulationCraft. If you download their client-side exe, all ARM does is pre-build your profile to run the sims instead of making you do it yourself or import from the Armory like with SimulationCraft. In terms of being accurate, I actually feel it’s more accurate than SimulCraft because it takes your data, and the data of tens of thousands of others who run the tool, and aggregates it all with machine learning. Also, no, it will choose completely different gear for different specs when you import the suggestions into their in-game addon in WoW. You can click through each spec and see the difference. Why it seems like it uses a lot of the same gear, though, is to reduce your bag space. You can toggle that option off if you don’t care to try to run a light bag, but it ranks your specs in a priority you set and then tries to run that same gear within an acceptable threshold. But, then again, if that kind of min/maxing is important I’m going to point out that a macro for raiding isn’t going to win you a sense of real accomplishment.
My philosophy on one-button (or at most two) macros is that I believe it is possible to give near-expert quality performance with little faffing about if the work is put into trying to build the macro right, and the users put in the effort to learn how to position their class and use the macro effectively. I do it this way because many of our users are disabled or lack finger dexterity, and I want to focus on them more than just us lazy types. I want everyone to be able to play their favorite class (if it happens to be one I’m working on 
) and not get left out because of something they can’t help. People can be cruel online, kicking others because DPS is too low in a non-important dungeon, or kicking the tank because he can’t hold aggro. I seek to help those people.
As I write macros, I will make wild changes and choices to find what best suits using a macro. A certain talent or ability might sim higher, and expert players might use it a certain way and do better, but once it’s in a macro it throws the whole effort into the toilet. That won’t work for us, so I try to find the best universal combination that will not only work, but perform well and make you competitive with others of your same ilvl. Except for talents that effect play style, what does it matter if I choose a talent that isn’t the meta if by the end of the dungeon your DPS is higher than your fellow class-member with a higher ilvl? And you didn’t even have to think about the talents?
Click rate, or repeat rate as I’ve been calling it, is subjective. Lots of things get in the way of a perfect number. Timothy wrote GSE to accommodate normal tapping, which is about 100ms if you’re frantically mashing a button. This means that it should reliably move from one entry to another in the expected step order in that timeframe. By upping it to 80 or in this macro’s case 30, we’re basically saying “screw orderly execution, just give me X ability as soon as it’s available!” which is what going faster does. Lots of things are skipped in the process, though. This is why you have to understand how to write a macro for those speeds and why it’s on the USERS of the macro to play with those speeds until they hit something that looks like it’s working.
[quote quote=56957]Why are the sims and logs looking at the T20 ToS content, just out of curiosity?
If you take first blood it will change the description of Blade Dance and it turns into a hybrid ST/AoE ability. …damage spread across all targets hit+around +10% to my primary target.
I ran out of napkin space but this is kind of why Demonic builds are slightly more attractive as a current Meta.
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Yeah, about that. So I don’t have a set at all, and I don’t have a legendary that doesn’t help any build I want to try to macro for (leaping lizards). So I look at data that best reflects where I am at right now. That data may be old, but it’s not outdated, just no sets and no applicable legendaries. But I don’t just look at that data, I look at the new stuff, too. I see their sets and numbers and, more importantly, their rotations to see what they do. It doesn’t really change, you just see certain abilities get dropped depending on the mechanics of the boss. Chaos Cleave is in use in any pure single target fight in Antouras, but First Blood is taken whenever there is an add fight. Though, this isn’t always the case, and we can’t always know why a choice was made. Maybe the DH was on add duty this raid. Maybe he’s considered the nuke opener but then is given a different task by final phase.
What I do know is that by adding in Blade Dance and First Blood my damage saw a huge increase in practice on the dummy. I then took it into my daily heroic, my 4 mythics for the weekly, a mythic +2, and all the normal raids along the Balance of Power artifact quest line, AND the mage tower challenges for both specs and…well it just performed miles better than my previous macros. I would have compared in higher content, but I don’t have a raiding guild or friends who do that kind of content, so I’m forced to do what I can get in to. I get that on paper it shouldn’t and that’s why I always start with the meta and what the math says before I start playing around, but just like in my other macros (looking at you Unholy DK) going slightly off-meta often produces better results when it’s all macroed together.
In terms of DPS my ST DPS only suffers if Eye Beam is on CD and there’s no Metamorphosis to refresh it. If I plan that out when choosing which bosses to use my Meta on and how many fractured souls I can pick up between fights, I find that my DPS always outpaces my peers. In AoE fights it only seems to be a matter of who fights first and longest: If it’s me I blow away the competition by a huge margin. If I’m late, I barely get on that fight’s meter. And if there’s an Affliction lock in the party, no one can touch him.
[quote quote=56958]Hello EnixLHQ
The last macro you posted with Blade Dance in it, seems to be the best one for me ty, it gives me a 50k more damage on the order hall raid dummy ???
Jimmy
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Yeah, that’s been my experience with it so far. Since I started using it I haven’t looked back. With the extra ability in the rotation I am almost never without something to use when questing, making all my objectives exceedingly simple. I never die anymore. My targets pop. And if I happen to start a fight with no CDs ready I generally have only to wait until Eye Beam fires or use Meta to heal back up and decimate.
Dungeons work similarly for me. If the tank is a madman is just running through all the content like he’s on crack I can generally keep up if I stay smart about my Meta use. If he takes each fight one at a time it’s even better for us. Either way, top-o-da-meter in most individual fights and always by the end of the dungeon (again, for the same ilvl or near it. A 950 will destroy your numbers if you’re only 904). This is the first time in my macro/WoW career that I can actually use one macro to fit both types of dungeon runs without any changes. I am loving this.
