XoDonZis Fire Mage Rotation - UPDATED 3/19/24

So here is the skinny. I like ELFS rotation a lot but it lacked at the time on ST. Amazing and might i say the best rotation hands down for AOE. However his playstyle is mostly M+ and unfortunately doesn’t really give the best approach to the Raiders or other elements as his macros lean heavy AOE centric. Not knocking it. Its actually what he said to me and why im posting this macro here. After he and I tested it and saw the areas where it increased and decreased. We agreed to post this macro and i will be clear on what its strong in and not.

ST. its a absolute beast and it was confirmed that it was a huge increase here. However, compared to Elfs AOE it takes a small loss. The talents that support the ST leech from AOE. and right there is a case use of what are you using it for. I tried Pandas and a few others and took note to the rotation and timings and this is the best i can squeeze out to find a balance fire mage rotation for all.

If you are pushing higher m+ use ELFs aoe rotation. But mid to lower m+, raid and ST this is the best one so far.

As always, I welcome feedback and since this is about making the community stronger. All input that is constructive is welcome. I don’t have any issues with sharing the credit. So in that. I wanna give @Elfyau a shout out for laying down the foundation and returning feedback to improve the community.

UPDATE 3/19/24

We tried some things out after @Daniel pointed out some things i was missing. It actually made a noticeable difference in both the ST and the AOE. Im posting the updated macro with the best talents that suit 90% of playstyles. We are aware this is not perfect and doesn’t capture the best scenario rotation. We are working in a new macro that breaks apart into two or three things to really get the best out of it, but its gonna take some work as we are counting the timings and such to max out combustion and also keep ignite up the longest. So stay tuned for that if you are a higher key player.

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Usage Information

Made @200ms
SHIFT: @cursor Shifting Power
ALT: Pyroblast

Ok so we are already on an overhaul thanks for @Daniel for the talent updates. We are seeing a bad rotation producing better dps across the board. I don’t know if we are just getting luck on the proc timing or what, but i have consistently shown over 20% more than the last update two days ago.

I took flamestrike and shifting powers and dragons breath out of the macro for situational things and use a stop casting manual macro and put them on the keys for when i want to cast flamestrike or combustion. I have combustion still in the macro as the way it is, is not ideal but its working really well. here are the stopcasting macros we made for this.

COMBUSTION:

#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/cast Combustion
/use 13
/use 14

FLAMESTRIKE:

#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/cast [@cursor,nochanneling] Flamestrike

We know there is a better way to squeeze out dps in a two macro setup and I am working on that for the more precise control people out there. But for now this is the balanced everyday macro to fit 90% of the users. Stay tuned. Daniel and I are chipping away at the precise control macros.

This macro contains 1 macro template. This Sequence was exported from GSE 3.1.58.

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Just tested this with my shitty geared Mage and was really good for ST. I tested in dungeon and on bosses it smashed so hard even thou i almost never had combustion i was top dps. Ty for this and keep up the good work.
Best regards
Borland1891

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i thought about working on monks but your fist weaving pvp is crazy amazing!

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Well just tinker it and it might even get better :slight_smile: . I have put down alot of hours on that Monk one and also my Paladin tank and this by getting inspiration from all other work that is out there. Actually i dont have a damn clue about coding in general but by testing and testing alot you can actually find a way :slight_smile:
My motto is “Better Together” and with that i mean we will create amazing macros if we just help each other, it is pure fun and to make ppl that are disabled able to play is what i do it for, includes me in this :slight_smile: Im 50 years old with fingers like a 100 year old so i cant play at all without this addon.

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When i get time, ill look at it. its pretty damn good as is but there is a small clipping that i want to look at. ill message you when i get after it.

Hi. I also tested your macro and am happy to help you improve it.
So I’ll list what can be improved directly.

  1. Nobody plays a Flamestrike build in raid or M+
  2. It’s important to understand when to use Fireball or scorch (I’m attaching a WA for that).
  3. Dragon’s Breath should not be in the macro because it is used depending on the situation in M+.
  4. At Pyroblst you don’t want to cast in the combustion. So you need a /stopcasting macro for Pyroblast and a normal Pyroblast for SKB.
  5. you don’t want to play Combustion on CD either because you want to use it for SKB every now and then to extend your Combustion.

Here is the WA that tells you exactly when to use scorch and not fireball.
https://wago.io/dD8Qk28Cs/4
If you have over 100% life or the target is below 35% life, Fireball will no longer be used.
So we will need 2 macros here. One with Fireball and one with Scorch.

Here’s a talent build for M+
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Here is a tanelnt build for Raid
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tried the macro but nop , mage is to easy to macro :frowning:

could you expand on that any more than a vague comment?

OK ill keep working on it. If you have a proof of concept id like to see how that flows

Take a look at what I’ve done so far.

Fireball Macro

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Scorch Macro

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Combustion Macro:
#showtooltip
/cast Combustion
/use 13

Pyroblast insta Macro:
/stopcasting
/cast Pyroblast

Something still needs to be done for sure. but you can test it and tell me how it goes.

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ok I tried the talents and it says its an old setup, any chance for a screen shot? actually it might be me. one sec i need to update gse. lol

Screenshot from what?

You can show here or in warcraftlogs what Talents play mages

It was my fault i forgot to update so the talents were not loading. I have three different loadouts from Methods raiding my friend gave me that they are rotating through. im trying each style on and seeing what works Pros/Cons for each scenario

Try it and tell me what you think. I prefer working with the community :wink:

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ok you are right it definitly off by something. Its a little clunky but does look really good for a rotation. im working on it right now.

Ok so bro, you are not gonna agree with this but i took it into a +5 to be safe and messed with it as we were going. then i took it to the training dummies and my broken rotation with the m+ talents and i made a macro for stop casting for pyroblast and even made one for flamestrike for those situational moments when you are running around and need a dot going. Put them on the bar for situational things. Well then i took the mods and made them pyroblast and shifting power and ignored the rule of 35% for scorch as it was in the macro already and produced consistently about 20% more dps and i know its broken and breaks the rules of scorch vs fire ball…

I tried on AOE and single target and showed a solid increase.

As for your macro ideas. I couldnt get the timing down and the WA worked but i think we also need a sunkings one to get all the moments right. I did try a "/click [mod:altshift] scorch " setup to switch to the scorch macro when below 35% but it didnt always fire right. So im going to mess with that some more.

As for the talents. Maybe its my gear, but i saw a big drop across the board with the raid talents. I did check Archon and that setup is about 51% of the meta but some of the ones like firestarter and such that m+ uses was in those so i kept it in there for now. I think we are on to something here.

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Usage Information

Made @200ms
SHIFT: @cursor Shifting Power
ALT: Pyroblast

Ok so we are already on an overhaul thanks for @Daniel for the talent updates. We are seeing a bad rotation producing better dps across the board. I dont know if we are just getting luck on the proc timing or what, but i have consistantly shown over 20% more than the last update two days ago.

I took flamestrike and shifting powers and dragons breath out of the macro for situational things and uswe a stop casting manual macro and put them on the keys for when i want to cast flamestrike or combustion. I have combustion still in the macro as the way it is, is not ideal but its working really well. here are the stopcasting macros we made for this.

COMBUSTION:

#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/cast Combustion
/use 13
/use 14

FLAMESTRIKE:

#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/cast [@cursor,nochanneling] Flamestrike

We know there is a better way to squeeze out dps in a two macro setup and I am working on that for the more precise control people out there. But for now this is the balanced everyday macro to fit 90% of the users. Stay tuned. Daniel and I are chipping away at the precise control macros.

This macro contains 1 macro template. This Sequence was exported from GSE 3.1.58.

give the update a shot when you can.

I’ll test it later. I come from Germany and our servers are currently down

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sure I will upload a details screenshot to check :wink: